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Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.14 14:24:00 - [1] Originally by: Jade Constantine Quote: So plz.. everyone give me and CCP your thought... I really want to know whats going on here... and what I really want is for you to Either get rid of the t2 BPO's... or make it realistically possible for me to get them too. I dont care if you turn them into 200 run copies and leave their incredible research on them so long as they do run out and those who want to be t2 builders are all on the same playing field. I dont think its too much to ask for everyone in eve to be playing the same game. And dont kid yourself... right now we are not! Well we got an Eagle BPO at the weekend that was on open in-game auction free for anyone in Eve to bid on. In the end we won with a bid of 50billion plus. Thats capitalism baby. You can say its difficult for you to get a tech2 bpo - and that would be fair comment. But it is not (and never has been) "impossible." I fail to see why your plaintive call to have our 50billion isk radically devalued by having the thing turned into a 200 run or replicated is in any way reasonable. Save up the money, form an investment cartel - hell, borrow some cash from ebank and get bidding. 50B, holy hell it's worth 50B!?? Mine's just sitting there collecting dust and ME. If anything there should be more tech II BPOs not less. Static moons is the problem here, not a few BPOs. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.15 03:05:00 - [2] Originally by: HankMurphy Originally by: Digiball u can buy my ishtar bpo for say 100 bill.. convo me if interested.,, why not just offer it to me for a bagillion gazillion isk? look, the fact they are in the game doesn't affect much. that said, i'm against all forms of static income, so, ditch the bpos and replace them with 300run bpcs We're in luck the Brutor Tribe carries immense political clout. 100B is a price he might actually get, single collectibles with little other value than as eye candy have fetched about that in less inflated times. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.15 03:12:00 - [3] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 15/07/2009 03:15:29 Originally by: DigitalCommunist The reason T2 BPOs haven't been converted to BPCs yet, despite the promises and overwhelming logic supporting such a move, is because CCP is timid. They don't want to fix a problem which few people understand, only to generate a barrage of whines from both BPO owners and the general populace (following the increase of T2 prices across the board). And even if they do "want" to fix the problem, its not high on the priority list. When they do, most of the people playing the game wouldn't have been around when T2 BPOs were seeded. They'd be like "What? T2 BPOs exist? NO WAI. GG CCP LOL @ WHINERZ". And the price wouldn't jump as drastically then, because most of the T2 BPO owners got bored of printing isk and quit the game long ago Oh yes it's printing isk all day long without holding the moons providing the ink. What I don't get is people whining about tech II BPOs at all, aren't they supposed to become the norm and readily available once tech III is commonplace, tech IV is on the way and what about when tech V hits, still no more tech II BPOs? CCP took a wrong turn killing the lottery, it should still be on seeding more and more prints till the market was saturated and only new pilots flew tech I and invention was geared towards tech III only. Are we expected to grind invention jobs for tech II still as part of making tech V items? Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.15 03:44:00 - [4] When I got a BPO I got a BPO, I'm not interested in downgrading my service. It's like telling everyone all the BPOs in game are now limited run BPCs. Will that go over well, probably not. Will everyone be interested in grinding for each base item, I think not. Do I think the market should be flooded with tech II BPOs by now, hell yes. Do I have tech II BPOs that theoretically would suffer from this, yes sure but not the best ones but that's not really the issue here nor is the non-impact of the existing BPOs on the market. The issue is do we want to be grinding forevermore for tech II copies or will we progress to the next stage and seed tech II again for it to become the norm? I for one am against the grind, not only as a holder but as someone who has seen the boredom of invention, you must have already offloaded your prints and shifted into the popular vote fold out of convenience, or a longstanding forum poster such as yourself would see by now that the supposed ill effect of the tech II BPOs are all whines of newer pilots, who think the BPOs are what stands between them and untold riches as they seem to lack information in the department of static moon income. That is what needs to be made finite, moon caches, not tech II BPOs. Full seed ahead on those, turn faucet off on the reactions tap. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.15 11:28:00 - [5] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 15/07/2009 11:28:12 Originally by: Soulita Hi voogru & co! It is funny to see the usual lobbyists for the t2 BPOs in full swing everytime a thread like this pops up. Putting so much effort into the preservation of their 'useless' and 'unprofitable' T2 BPOs... Oh wait.. Why whould they do that??!! You must have not read the thread or come here in fullblown denial and want everything leveled for your amusement, others be damned. I collect BPOs myself, I don't care if everyone else has them too, as long as I get to keep those I've collected. I hate the typical MMO grind. But I guess those two points are beyond your realm of reason and anything someone of your petty nature can grasp. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.15 14:38:00 - [6] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 15/07/2009 14:42:10 Originally by: Soulita ...Again, this is not about you and me, it is about an unbalanced item that was introduced in a questionable way, and how to solve that issue once and for all. The only thing questionable about it was a dev helping himself and his alliance to a number of prints. If there is any imbalance to be solved by punishing the rest of us for this his transgressions I want all the accounts of players in the alliance formerly known as BoB at the time of this exploit and later, reaping unjust rewards, to be banned for exploiting. This incident by and large discredited the whole lottery, which I still hold in high regard, as mentioned prior it made logging on every day to EVE fun. Some days these days not so much with all the negative correspondence a CEO has to deal with... Then and only then can I consider talking about a new system for allowing tech II BPOs to enter the game. Which I do still want, tech II BPOs, not BPCs till the end of days. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.15 15:00:00 - [7] Originally by: CyberGh0st It is not a question about wether T2 BPO's are better or worse, have alot or little impact, it is about everyone being on equal terms. As long as T2 BPO's exist, this will not be the case. Veterans have more than enough edges over newcommers, like the time based training ( which is a good thing, don't get me wrong ), T2 BPO's should not be one of them. I vote for the conversion of all BPO's into an X amount of runs, with an advance warning of X amount of months before it goes live. On that note I demand a SA membership for one of my alts. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.15 17:25:00 - [8] Yes, under the laws of BC you must be able to grind yourself to everything via lvl4 missions, preferably in identically fit Navy Ravens. If Navy Ravens are no longer seeded you're required to self destruct in the interest of fair play. No matter if it was a bug or ill-conceived feature behind the disappearance of said Raven. EVE was never about being fair, that much should be clear to everyone with a few years in. That being said you don't see many tech II BPO holders harping on about how they should have a monopoly, just the bitter grinders wanting everyone to be as miserable as they are. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.16 00:48:00 - [9] I don't have 100s of cheap control towers from before the price hike, those are the breaks. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.21 17:02:00 - [10] Is this flamebait still around? I want everyone who ever earned money on things since nerfed to have their wallets emptied, all for the sake of me being able to compete on the same terms. Must grind! Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2009.07.24 16:39:00 - [11] Originally by: JitaPriceChecker2 Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2 on 24/07/2009 16:36:04 Originally by: Lord Fitz Missing the point, as long as they exist, everyone is on equal terms. Everyone is free to get them the way most people got theirs, buying them from someone else. If people that paid for them have them removed, that's not equal terms. Not everyone is free to get them since , if owners decide not to sell them you cant get them. So? Persuade them to change their minds. Easier to whine is it not. I can't hold a high end moon in my current state of affairs either, let's nerf those guys. Should/would/could have, HAVE you chav! Also Known As

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